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#1 burke78

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Posted 24 November 2005 - 08:39 PM

any ideas on what this fault actually is as i am not about to send the car to citreon when i can sort it myself as i have had a ruff deal with the recall it was about 9 months to late and they wont comensate me for the work that had to be carried out to fix the car in the first place and then i get the recall done and they still wont pay any compansation for the first lot of work.

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Posted 24 November 2005 - 09:34 PM

Loose battery connection or terminal under bonnet

Bad diode pack on the alternator

slipping alternator drive belt

loose connection on the alternator
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Posted 26 November 2005 - 11:39 AM

many thanks checked the lot and fault has apparentley gone so cheers mate

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Posted 28 November 2005 - 05:13 PM

Hi - am too having this fault; is the battery charge fault alert constant or doe sit beep on and off, with the red battery light flashing on and off? It happens at tick over and if I rev the engine in one quick go (prolly not recommended), it stops.

Weirdly it also first started just before last MOT last November, but then vanished over the warmer months before returning again, just before this years MOT. Bizzarre.

Indie service engineer said probably the alternator - salt i nthe air from when I worked in Lewes; I've booked it in for the spring recall at my local proper Citroen and asked them about it and they said it might be the alt or the belt. It's five years old and the service guy found that the fuel filter hadn't been changed on any of the previous services. If so, and the same applies to the belt that is connected to the Alt, could the same thing happen? But what has the weather got to do with it??

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Posted 28 November 2005 - 07:03 PM

Hi - am too having this fault; is the battery charge fault alert constant or doe sit beep on and off, with the red battery light

There is a very heavy drain on the battery when starting in cold weather as they loose efficiency with a drop in temperature. (half the capacity could be lost)

Also you will be taking more out of the battery by using more accessories such as headlamps, heated screen etc. That will probably be coupled with shorter runs, at lower speeds, when the battery doesn't get chance to be fully charged.
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Posted 27 April 2006 - 07:09 PM

the fault is back with avengance just replaced batterey to see if that was the problem as the warning had not shown the it sucked the juice out of the new battery in days. do not fancy paying citroen dealer near me the thick end of 500 quid so any surgestions on how to acuratley diagnose the problem and will an auto electrician be the better bet.

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Posted 27 October 2008 - 11:32 AM

There is a very heavy drain on the battery when starting in cold weather as they loose efficiency with a drop in temperature. (half the capacity could be lost)

Also you will be taking more out of the battery by using more accessories such as headlamps, heated screen etc. That will probably be coupled with shorter runs, at lower speeds, when the battery doesn't get chance to be fully charged.


Did you ever get to the bottom of this. Have similar fault but intermittent. Fault disables central locking, indicators and windscreen wipers. Change battery on recommendation of Main Dealer following diagnostic check. Wasted my money. Fault disappears after car has been run and left standing over night or for a few minutes.

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Posted 27 October 2008 - 11:37 AM

Have you monitored the current flow through the battery with the key on engine off KOEO ? For say 5 mins and noted the values down?
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Posted 27 October 2008 - 12:21 PM

Check the battery terminal under the bonnet. This is mounted in front of the passenger has a plastic cover with a + in a O on it. The battery terminal in the car (under front seat) runs through to this for distribution around the car.
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Posted 14 November 2008 - 10:19 PM

i had the battery charge fault on my picasso and it turned out to be the alternator it was intermittent for a while ie on and off then all of a sudden nothing and car started to stall i had to drive home with no lights indicators or trying not to press the brake because any thing i touched or pressed made the car cut out i got the aa
out next day to take me to garage where the alternator was replaced no more probs

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Posted 14 November 2008 - 10:48 PM

When brushes are worn they tend to leave a gap inbetween the brush and slipring on the alternator vibration intermittently reconnects the electrical circuit creating the confusion of an electrical fault. Which in reality is a new alternator or brush replacement before diode pack or ECU is damaged. Tell Tale signs are flashing red light (Battery Charge light) whilst driving along.

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 09:07 PM

I wonder if anyone can help me with this. I have just bought an x plate picasso 1.6. The car give a smell like a clutch burning or brake pad tpe of smell. It has refused to start about 6 times in the few hours i have had it (as if starter motor not engaging) and now won't start at all giving symptoms of a dead battery. Clicky solenoid. Could this be alternator?

What would be causing the smell?

HELP PLEASE I hope I haven't bought a lemon.

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Posted 16 November 2008 - 09:32 AM

1 Why did you buy it without a test drive and stop starting it a few times?

2 Where did you buy it from

3 Take it back immediatley or call the person who sold it to you immediatley for explanation

4 Dont jump over the cliff :P

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Posted 16 November 2008 - 10:48 AM

I think the advise given is very sound.

From your explanation it does sound like the starter motor - as for the smell I can only hazard a guess its related (I assume it smells like this when your trying to start it).

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 05:37 PM

I am having a problem with my brake charge warning message flashing on and off and just wondered if anyone had any other checks i can do before i take it to the garage

I have read other post on website which say it could be the battery or a blown fuse causing problem

1 - i have fully charged the battery via external unit and it is still flashing
2 - there appears to be no blown fuse internal or external

The car turns over fine but i have noticed the head lights are not as bright as they are usually

Is this a definate alternator fault? Its a 2003 XSARA PICASSO just wondered if anyone could confirm the alternator is the problem

Please help

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 10:12 PM

You say "brake charge warning message flashing". Do you mean battery charge warning? If you've checked all the electrical connections it could be worn carbon slip ring brushes in the alternator. Certainly worth checking them.
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Posted 12 December 2010 - 09:31 AM

Sorry, yes Battery Charge Fault, thanks for getting in touch i will get it checked out