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#161 Lancelot

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 06:17 PM

I'd buy them again. Quiet, decent wet grip on corners/roundabouts etc. But must admit I don't throw the Pic into four wheel drifts and slides like I've done with every previous car. I've aged!
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Posted 28 September 2010 - 03:02 PM

Just brought my 8 yr old spare into play, gave it a thorough checkover on the sidewalls, apart from a muddy colour its fine, done about 400 miles on it now at various speeds. shame to have it unused and unloved just because its a discontinued Michelin

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 07:53 PM

Don't go abroad with the 8 year old tyre, I understand its illegal to have tyres over five years old in some parts of Europe.

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 02:04 PM

I'm think it is Michelin Energy Saver

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 02:16 PM

Just brought my 8 yr old spare into play, gave it a thorough checkover on the sidewalls, apart from a muddy colour its fine, done about 400 miles on it now at various speeds. shame to have it unused and unloved just because its a discontinued Michelin

Tyre manufacturers state that you shouldn't use them if they're over 6yrs old because the rubber deteriorates, I change them usually at 4yrs+ (or 2.0mm myself). If you take a ball park figure for a Michelin Energy of £80 x 4 divided by 5yrs = £1.23 per week a small price to pay for peace of mind? If you was in a serious accident your insurer possibly wouldn't pay out?
My advice to anyone when they get a new car - Always replace the spare with a budget tyre and use your new spare the first time you need to replace your front tyres you'll only need to buy one then. If you leave a £30 budget tyre on the rack for 6yrs no big loss!
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 03:06 PM

If you get a new car usually you get a new spare, unless its second-hand but new to you.

On the wife's C1 we've only bought one tyre in 2 years 5 months, and we're hoping that we are able to hand it back in June next year without buying any more.

Of course ATS were hoping we bought two new tyres, but I insisted on buying one and bringing the unused spare into play, both were fitted on the rear of the car, and the rears put on the front, with the 'best' 2.5 mm worn tyre used as the spare; I thought everyone did this to ensure all the tyres are worn or part worn by the time they get to 5 years old and require replacement?

Otherwise you end up with an 8 year old spare tyre and trust your life it doesn't decide to delaminate outside the recommendations of the tyre manufacturer!

In such circumstances, I think neither your Insurance or the tyre manufacturer would entertain a claim in the event of an accident resulting from a failure of an 8 year old tyre which should not have been used, and if in any doubt a driver should consult a tyre specialist.

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 10:43 PM

I'll be sticking to the Michelin Primacy HP 215/55 R16 93V tyres that are on the car, well I would do if they still made them, but since they were fitted prior to delivery on 1st October 2010 they have now become obsolete.

There is a new European 'S' Marking under Tyre Noise Regulations, which came into force last month for tyres up to 215 mm wide.

See this link http://www.blackcirc.../tyre-noise-faq

I think all of you will find that your next tyre purchase will have a pattern and construction different to your last.

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 02:19 AM

Sorry if posting in wrong place but for some reason I am not allowed to start a new thread.

Anyway, I've just purchased a C4 Grand Picasso 1.6Hdi VTR+ EGS. I'd like to replace all four tyres (cost isnt really a problem as I'd like GOOD tyres). My problem is that the front tyres on my car are 215/55/16/93V and the rear tyres are 215/55/16/97H.

Can anyone tell me the correct tyre size for my vehicle?

Thanks in advance.

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 06:53 PM

This is not about tyres specifically on the Pic. I've just had 4 tyres put on the Fiesta, at my local Kwik-Fit. Yes - they have a variable reputation, but I've been going to my local one for years, (on and off), and the manager has been there for years as well. I generally trust them for basic items like tyres - and I got a good price.

So, Kwik-Fit prejudice aside, I checked the bill in detail when I got home to discover they had filled the tyres with nitrogen, at a small charge. I'm not overly fussed about the charge, but 10 mins research on the web indicates the benefit of nitrogen in family cars is questionable or only realised after 10 years (by which time a tyre should be dead anyway!).

Seems like a gimmick for a few extra pennies - like the garages that always put a sachet of screenwash in the water bottle at a service - even if it's topped up. Anyone got any differing views on nitrogen in family car tyres?

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 10:36 AM

SeaJay, if you see the post immediately before your own you'll see the tyre size that is fitted to new cars, which I believe is above the specification required.

They have fitted V rated tyres, which are rated up to 149mph, and whilst this is good, I don't believe my 1.6HDi is capable of exceeding 118mph, unless anyone knows different.

In which case, the following options are viable;

T rated = 118mph
U rated = 124mph
H rated = 130mph
V rated = 149mph

Which brings me to a story, many moons ago, when I drove fast response as a paramedic for the ambulance service, I was told to visit ATS Tyres in Ludlow whilst on-duty for a new pair of front tyres for the Vauxhall Astra 2.0 GTE I was using (we used to get through tyres), and while I waited I noticed that the old front tyres were V rated, and the rear tyres were H rated, and they were about to fit some H rated tyres on the front, so I asked them about speed ratings.

They said that HR was up to 130mph, and that VR was up to 149mph.

So I told them to stop what they were doing and they looked at me in amazement and asked why, to which I replied that on an emergency journey less than two hours ago I had been doing 135mph around the Ludlow By-Pass A49. They stopped, got on the phone to Ambulance Workshops, and returned with a grin, because they could now fit four new VR rated tyres.

So you are right to question why there are different speed rated tyres on your car.

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 01:19 PM

Thanks for your reply, Wireless. Actually, I have now fitted Uniroyal Rainsport2 tyres which are 215/55/16/97Y

Now, I recognise that Y is an excessive speed rating for my car, but I have previous experience of the Rainsport2s and they have superb grip in the dry and phenominal grip in the wet. As Uniroyal only make them in 215/55/16 with a 97 weight rating in Ys, I decided what the heck, and went ahead and bought them. I'm really glad I did. The Michelin Primacy's that were on the front were dire in the snow where as the Uniroyals mean the picasso is now rather good in snow and, as I said, phonominal in the rain. Also the road noise is greatly reduced.

The Uniroyals are not cheap at £105 a corner but what price peace of mind and safety?

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 02:42 PM

Just a thought. Aren't Pics fitted with 185s? By fitting 215s that reduces the tyre loading on the road by spreading it over a larger area. I'd guess less grip. Is that a good idea?

I remember the days when a Citroen 2cv could climb a snow covered St. Gotthards Pass faster than every other car in the Monte Carlo Rally. Must admit that when I went over it in about 1961 there was no snow on the road, only at the top, but it was July. These days people drive through the tunnel.
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Posted 24 February 2011 - 12:33 AM

As I wrote earlier in this thread, the GC4P 1,6HDi Exclusive came with Michelin Primacy HP 215/55 R16 93V tyres as standard when I took delivery on 1st October.

With Seejay mentioning poor performance of his Primacy tyres in the recent snow I'm wandering whether the VTR+ has traction control, ESP, and ABS as standard, since with the same tyres I had no problems in the snow or on hard packed ice, either breaking to a stand still or accelerating away afterwards.

The only problem I've had to report is hard packed snow interfering with the sensors of the rear suspension, which surprised me.

I don't think I have any say in what tyres are fitted to the vehicle anyway, since Kwik Fit deals with that, but obviously they won't be able to fit Michelin Primacy the next time around due to the recent tyre noise legislation changing the design of tyres sold after 1st October 2010.

I've been looking at 7.50x16 options for the 109, and with the very low mileage envisaged, and the likelyhood that it'd be used in very bad snow conditions if that ever happens again, it will likely be a set of Remoulds I fit, probably the Insa Turbo Traction Trak design.

However, the front axle still needs re-attaching at this point in proceedings, ahem!

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 07:00 PM

Are uniroyal rain tyres rated highly or not on a 1.8 xsara picasso?

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 11:33 PM

I still like the Toyo tyres that I fitted.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 10:04 PM

I thought I would fit Firestone on the Front wheels of my picasso because the man in the tyre place said they were on offer and a good tyre so i had 2 firestone and 1 cheapo for the rear as there was already a cheepy fitted the New cheepy tyre lasted longer than the firestone had about 7000 miles out of the firestones whent back to the tyre place to show them and they said thats ok because tyres are made for grip these days so dont last long Bull***t.

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 01:43 AM

I once bought a set of Maxxis for the Discovery, they barely lasted 12k on the front, and about 18k on the back, and I never noticed the grip being any better than the standard fit Goodyear ATs, yet even those only lasted 18k on the front.

Then I bought a set of BFG ATs and they lasted 36k before even the spules were worn away, and again I never noticed the on road performance being any worse.

You just have to get the right tyre for the vehicle.

So far these Primacy Michelins have been hard wearing on the Pic.

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 12:53 AM

UM we including semi slicks here :wink:

Yokohama A048 would be a good bet can pick up plenty good second hand ones for cheap because thats what the IPRA guys run as a control tyre and the high level guys only run the tyres for a couple races.

I think the lotus elise cup cars run them or something similar as well.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 10:55 AM

I have suffered wandering steering issues which was eventually tracked down to cheap import tyres on the front, a set of Firestones on the front cured the wander, the cheapies [still almost new] were relegated to the rear.

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 11:22 AM

Michelin Energy 3A = £88.00 each (example fitted - 2 x Mich Energy 3A's fully fitted = £193.98)

They also show the following 185 / 65 x 15 (H rated)

Dunlop SP Sport 01 £76.00

Continental £66.00

Pirelli P6000 £67.00

Arrowspeed T100 £38.00</div>