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#1 steveg

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 07:57 PM

Hi

Just had car serviced and Mot'd and was told that front pads were very low and front discs were warn and "lipped" , cars done 55k and appears to be original disks fitted

What is a fair price to supply and fit pads and discs for a pic ?

Have had 2 quotes for independants both approx £190

Citreon dealer quoted £250 using genuine parts

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 10:09 PM

Mileage is about right for them to be worn. Buy them as a kit and do them yourself. Very easy to do and would cost in the region of £70-£80

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 06:41 PM

I had my disk's and pads done at my local for £120, my main dealer wanted £260....because of that I gave my local a £20 tip !!

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 09:03 AM

I've just been advised by my garage that I require new front discs - due to corrosion - on a 25 month old vehicle that has done a little over 14000 miles.

They don't think that this is unusual. I do!

Has anyone else experience of something similar?

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 11:14 AM

Too many variable on this.

what sort of drving, were roads salty, does car get left out in the wet, has it been on a beach, do you use a pressure washer on it, do the wheels get cleaned with an acidic wash etc. etc.
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Posted 04 August 2011 - 12:30 PM

Thanks for the response.

The car is basically used for Urban/Rural driving. Average single journey lengths are around 15 miles; with the return journey made approximately 4 times a week. Occasional local journeys; I prefer to walk where/when I can as I need the exercise! Even less frequently are long journeys - those in excess of 50 miles - as I don't enjoy driving.

There has been no known change of driving style/car usage over last 25 years. I've had several new cars in that period and generally keep them for about 3-4 years and have never had the problem before. I don't tend to drive/brake hard.

I suppose you could say that I do Standard British weather driving, with the car parked on the drive overnight in central England.

The car is washed at local hand wash, using pressure jet on wheels, no more than once per month.

I did manage to negotiate a £50 discount off the bill, but I'm still not happy as I think this is unacceptable. Will I have the same problem (and cost) again in 2 years?

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 05:05 PM

According to my Haynes Citroen C3 manual the max wear on a disc is only 2mm. Brake pad new is 13mm and worn out 2mm.

It will depend also on the friction material no asbestos allowed these days so they maybe hard and wear the disc. Having said that my C3 is 4 years old and done only 24000 miles but the pads and discs are well within tolerance.

having said that urban driving these days is accomplished by much braking due to traffic.
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Posted 04 August 2011 - 05:34 PM

The discs required changing to stop juddering when the brakes were applied. According to the garage this was because the discs were corroded, not worn - and the pads were OK.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 08:05 AM

A disc will corrode on the edges and the pads wear a portion of the disc from centre outwards where they rub. This will leave a ridge at he edge. This can be taken off, if rest of disc is thick enough.
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 11:52 PM

Our C3 has gone through 2 discs in 60k. It gets left for a week at a time between journeys. Paid £150 for pads and discs at Halfords but now got lifetime warranty. Well worth it as its obviously a weak point on them. Good car though only other fault we have had in 5 yrs was a water leak on the drivers side washer jet that took out an injector. Got a tip to seal in the jet no probs since. Phill.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 07:50 PM

Just been quoted £55 for a set of front discs and pads from my local car part supplier dont think this is too bad and they have quoted me £90 for the rear ones complete with bearings and pads



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Posted 26 March 2013 - 08:38 PM

At 23000 my C3 Pic will need new front discs and pads before I take it in for the annual Dealer service (don't want them to charge dealer prices for discs & pads!). £55 seems a very low price - I usually get OE discs and pads from Euro Car Parts.



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Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:25 PM

Our C3 has gone through 2 discs in 60k. It gets left for a week at a time between journeys. Paid £150 for pads and discs at Halfords but now got lifetime warranty. Well worth it as its obviously a weak point on them. Good car though only other fault we have had in 5 yrs was a water leak on the drivers side washer jet that took out an injector. Got a tip to seal in the jet no probs since. Phill.

Halfords may state lifetime warranty is against manufacturing defects not wear and tear, check the smallprint



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:10 PM

Small disc and pads on what is a fairly heavy vehicle for its size. Lots of people make the mistake of after breaking and coming to a stop they keep the foot pressed on the break pedal rather than releasing it and using the handbreak. This doesnt allow the pads or contact spot on the disc to cool and can cause slight warping which then causes faster wear and tear.



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Posted 22 June 2013 - 12:59 PM

Just been quoted £55 for a set of front discs and pads from my local car part supplier dont think this is too bad and they have quoted me £90 for the rear ones complete with bearings and pads

Did this work last weekend took me 2 Hours to do and a cost of £50 for Mintex discs and pads very happy :D



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Posted 30 November 2014 - 11:46 AM

Hi.  Just discovered that the friction material has completely detached from the backing plate on one the front brake pads!  Can someone tell me if a caliper rewind tool is required (for a C3 Picasso) please?  Is it different with the rear calipers?  Thank you! 



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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:09 AM

Of course, I mean a caliper piston rewind tool, to create the space for the new, thicker and intact brake pads!  Or can the piston be pushed straight back in using a G-cramp?  Thanks.



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Posted 04 December 2014 - 08:32 AM

Haynes manual for a C3 SALOON says FRONT just push them back with a G cramp or levers, no mention of a rewind tool.

 

It's possible that a C3 Picasso has different callipers.


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 12:07 PM

Thanks for this stimulator.  I would buy a rewind tool, but can't even find out if one is needed in the first place, let alone which one to buy.  An option would be to splash out on an expensive one with various fittings and for left and right turning, but that would be expensive as far as I can see.  A couple of garages I phoned said they couldn't comment without seeing the calipers, no surprise I guess...

 

Okay, having now looked at videos on youtube, I can see that those pistons needing the rewind tool have a solid flat or domed surface with grooves for the stubs on the rewind tool to locate.  The ones I watched were all for rear brakes.  The piston on the front brake for my C3 Picasso is hollow like a cup, which tells me that a rewind tool is not required, because there's nowhere for it to get a grip!  So I will try to use the G-cramp.  I will have a look at the rear pistons first, to compare.

 

Also think that the rewind tool is required on rear brakes because the handbrake also operates this - don't know why though!



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Posted 04 December 2014 - 12:24 PM

Hi,

The reason for a rewind tool (as I understand it, because I've never had a vehicle with them on) is due to these type of pistons having a "thread" on that needs "screwing" back into the caliper. If you say the surface of the piston is completely flat you're probably correct that it's just a case of pushing it back with a G cramp having cleaned it. Use some wood if necessary to prevent any damage and keep an eye on the brake fluid resevoir so it doesn't overflow.

Give it a try gently first before buying anything.

HTH,

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Edited by Landmark, 04 December 2014 - 12:25 PM.

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