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#21 Glenn

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 05:24 PM

You should also have a new water pump fitted at the same time - good insurance!


Agreed!

It was the water pump that contributed to the belt going on mine, just over 69K on the clock.
All I can say is well done to those of you having reliability until 100K plus!

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Posted 17 September 2009 - 09:42 PM

Having had a cam belt go on an escort 1.8TD 5k short of the required interavl, I would never go the whole diatance, its just not worth the risk.

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 01:16 AM

Hindsight is a great thing. And for those unfortunate enough to have had their belt let go, please, enlighten the rest of us of any at all warning signs! Surely there must have been something, a gut feeling, a noise from the air vent...whatever it might have been tell us your tails - I'm still saving up the cash for such preventions! =)
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Posted 18 September 2009 - 05:32 PM

I fones a citroen specialist an he told me to come back wen ive done 100k dont bother before i am wasting my money he has never heard of a hdi belt snappin

mines done 95k now

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 12:22 PM

Would this apply to Petrol, mine is coming up for 70K, mostly motorway miles for the past three years?

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 12:37 PM

"enlighten the rest of us of any at all warning signs!"

Belt went on a friend's Viva OHC. No warning at all, but luckily he was just pulling away when it happened - low revs and a sensibly large valve-to-piston clearance on that engine meant that there was no internal damage, but, basically, if it goes at any sort of speed, the only warning you are likely to get is a loud noise from the front as the valves bend and/or punch holes in the pistons (depending upon engine variant) unless you are fortunate like my mate.
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 04:27 PM

HI im a new member ,is it possible to check Cambelt to see if needs changing my PICASSO HDI 2001 reg has done 92000 miles, can you advise

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 10:14 PM

If its done 92k on the original cambelt I'd get it changed ASAP, if you don't know if its original (i.e. you bought your Pic second hand) a good indication is usually how bright the writing is on the belt, if its old & worn the writing tends to be faded whereas if its not so old the writing is bright.
If you bought your Pic with 70k+ on the clock its very likely its the original belt, most (if not all) will sell their vehicle prior to changing it to save the expense. Most people tend to change the cam-belt, alternator belt & water pump together so its not cheap.
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Posted 01 November 2009 - 11:05 AM

Thanks for info,but do not know how to inspect the belt to see if the writing on the belt is bright or not, not being a mechanic i would appreciate some
help on how to inspect the belt.Thanks very much for your reply, sorry to be a pain Tornado

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 07:54 PM

Thanks for info,but do not know how to inspect the belt to see if the writing on the belt is bright or not, not being a mechanic i would appreciate some
help on how to inspect the belt.Thanks very much for your reply, sorry to be a pain Tornado


To be honest I wouldn't put too much emphasis on inspecting the belt. They can look fine but be on their way out.
All you can do is look at it, twist it around and look for cracks.

Also, the belt could be ok but the water pump bearing goosed and it is often this failing that slips the belt off rather than the belt itself snapping.

I always go off miles/age. If you've bought second hand and don't know if has been done, my advice is to get it done for peace of mind.

Belt, tensioner, pulleys come as a kit. If you are really concerned get water pump done as well. Should be around 200 if you go to a good independant.

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Posted 30 November 2009 - 07:39 PM

Hi all :D

really sorry to bust in here but i carnt start a thread for some reason...........my questions is simple tho,
we have an 1.8 'x'reg pic with 88k on the clock, its getting a major service next week and its over due for the cam belt, the citroen specialist has said that they MUST fit a 'kit' with new steel pullies as the original ones are plastic and they will not gaurantee the work if i dont pay the extra 78 quid for the kit...............is this true or are they on the make????

thanks alot ;)


Hi Zeff

I've just had the opposite problem with a Citroen garage, who changed the cambelt on the routine service but not the 'kit' and guess what .....the plastic pulley seized up 17k miles later and caused irrepairable damage to the engine. The citroen garage say that they inspected the kit (tensioner, pulley) at the time of the cambelt change and as there was no wear or damage, thay did not change the kit. Could you please provide a link to the advice that your Citroen garage gave regarding changing the whole kit as a MUST? Or can anyone please advise where I can get the official Citroen UK recommendation about changing cambelt and the kit too?

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Posted 17 December 2009 - 11:16 PM

I got the belt done on mine about 6 months ago at just under 65000 miles. It's a 2.0 HDi 2002

Although there's no reports on here of belts failing, I'm not sure it's as good an indication of fail rate as chatting to your mechanic.

Mine, who I also know away from the garage, has plenty of tales of misfortune re. failed belts, and I know he puts more emphasis on the age of the belt than the miles it's done i.e he was more concerned that mine was nearly 8 years old than the fact that it was low mileage.

And for the cynics who are thinking 'well your mechanic would say that wouldn't he', I'm afraid there's nothing I can say that will change your mind!

Although I might say that the old belt looked very 'tired' to me, threads of black fibre (I can't think how else to describe it) at the edge of it, the sides had that look like the walls of very old car or bike tyres. But performance wise, the car was fine.

My garage isn't a Citroen Dealer, but they specialise in Citroens if that makes sense?

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 12:04 AM

There seems to be a lot of good advice here on cam belts etc, but most replies relate to 2.0HDI's.
One of our XPics is Xreg and just a few months short of 10 yrs old. It is a 1.6 petrol with 60,000 +mls on clock.
Should we change belt based on age since it still has approx. 10,000mls to go before milage limit?
On this engine, is it also important to change water pump with belt, or is that mainly for diesels?

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 10:05 AM

We just did ours, @ 73,000, haynes reckon 75,000 my wife does a lot of short journeys, and haynes reckon you should have this to 37,500 if thats the case?

For 350 we paid to have it done including a new water pump, tensioners etc, it was a no brainer!

get it done when you can afford, but dont leave it too long.
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 12:03 PM

I have 1.8 Petrol 02 Reg XP which has just clocked 61k and the its due for service as the Spanner on the Display is screaming :D . I used to do a lot of motorway mileage but since last 1 year its mostly inner city runs and odd trips on motorways. So is it worth to get the Cam Belt and Water Pump replaced when I take my car for servicing or shall I wait till 75k.

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 08:57 AM

You should also have a new water pump fitted at the same time - good insurance!

i would say around the 70k mark

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 04:42 PM

our XPics is Xreg and just a few months short of 10 yrs old. It is a 1.6 petrol with 60,000 +mls on clock. Should we change belt based on age since it still has approx. 10,000mls to go before milage limit?change water pump with belt?

On a petrol the Service intervals are 10,000 miles, Cam balts are recommended at 75k so as a rough guide you could say 75k or 7.5yrs? I certainly would replace a Cam belt every 6yrs regardless of mileage if under 75k miles, (Tyre manufacturers say you should replace tyres regardless of tread every 6yrs) Likewise all other belts and its good sense to change the water pump after all its 10yrs old and is not going to last forever is it? :(
I'm surprised you haven't already changed it to be honest...................... :huh:
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Posted 14 February 2010 - 08:09 PM

On a petrol the Service intervals are 10,000 miles, Cam balts are recommended at 75k so as a rough guide you could say 75k or 7.5yrs?


Handbook states 75-80,000 miles or 10 years! (1.8 petrol.)
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 01:58 PM

Just had mine changed on 1.6sx, 155.00 including everthing that goes with it.A good price i thought. Car has done 58000

didnt change water pump though, didnt think i needed to

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 08:15 PM

That's a good price. Name the garage! :D
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