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#1 Mr WZ Boson

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 12:12 PM

Can I ask a dim question please?

It's my first DIY oil change on my 04 1.6 HDi and I'm trying to remove the oil filter cover.

The cover is a black housing with a 27mm nut on top marked '25 NM'. Now, when I try to undo the thing, I find the whole filter body turns.

Do you know if that's correct? I had kind of assumed that the nut came off first, then the body pulls off.

Can anyone help please?

Many thanks

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 12:32 PM

Yes thats correct.

I'd put something on the floor like a rag or an old piece of carboard as it will drip.

I have a link to a method someone wrote up for a Pug 407 with the same engine (I'll link rather than cut/paste due to the photos). May help you out.

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 12:59 PM

Can I ask a dim question please?

It's my first DIY oil change on my 04 1.6 HDi and I'm trying to remove the oil filter cover.

The cover is a black housing with a 27mm nut on top marked '25 NM'. Now, when I try to undo the thing, I find the whole filter body turns.

Do you know if that's correct? I had kind of assumed that the nut came off first, then the body pulls off.

Can anyone help please?

Many thanks


It is correct that the whole black plastic body cap will lift as well as elevating the filter from a drain plug in the bottom of the filter housing. This action allows the oil to drain into the sump before removing the cap completely.
When drained take the cap and the filter completely away from the alloy filter base.
You will have to pull hard to remove the filter from the cap, this is normal.
Grease the small o ring and the new large o ring in the cap and first place the new filter element into the alloy filter base housing making sure you plug the hole with the plug on the paper filter base. Fit the cap and screw to the correct torque.
Job done.
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 01:30 PM

I'm having a day of ditto posts :P
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 01:40 PM

I'm having a day of ditto posts :P


Your having a day of ditto posts!
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 01:44 PM

For many years I use to do all my own oil changes, as many on here will have done.
Lovely job....go get the oil & filter..then a trip to Citroen agent for sump plug washer. try to find enough rags to mop up inevitable spillages. Crawl under car with suitable receptacle for the old oil + socket set (of course first obtaining correct sump plug spanner, different from all the other sump plug spanners I have used...got quite a collection now). Drain the warm oil...swear & fish out sump plug from oil drainage receptacle...drag myself from under the car...bang head...swear, go inside for a coffee & a bit of sympathy from her indoors...got none because I put oil smears on tap, kettle, coffee jar, spoon and mug, sent outside as not allowed to sit indoors "in that state". Attempt to use chain strap on screw on filter (point of interest....at the car plant when car was on production line the first item on the line was the oil filter...all other components were built around this) Scrape knuckles in an impossibly tight space...swear. Think twice to make sure Im doing "lefty loosey...righty tighty" think again a third time as the 4@cking thing has been previously over tightened...but then a mixture of bliss and agony as it suddenly gives and I scrape my same knuckles even deeper possibly needing extensive plastic surgery. Mop up all the spillage from the residual oil still in the filter....crap I run out of rags and its dripping on the alternator and belt....run in panicking for more rags....told to "be careful what you touch" give a withering look to her indoors which she cant possibly understand the implications of. Run out mop up spillage. Open oil can to dip finger in oil to smear the filter gasket...attempt to start thread on oil filter housing with filter (about 17 times) get it started then panic that it may be cross threaded...unscrew & start again just to make sure. Unscrew oil filler cap and place on engine block. Start to pour in oil really carefully....stop to mop up spillage of new oil on engine block. $4iiiyite....the sump plug...dive under car....bang head...swear... screw on sump plug....unscew sump plug and this time use new sump plug washer...tighten sump plug...drag myself from under the car, this time being very careful not bang head...see oily handprints on black bumper that I used for purchase & support in an attempt at (careful) under car body extraction.
Fill car with oil. Swear...lost the filler cap...do an extensive search of all engine bay crevices (at a rough estimate, 239)...find filler cap lodged in an impossible position but managed to retrieve...put on oil filler cap. Check for any leaks....turn on engine check again for any leaks. All is done....almost....mop up spills I missed the fist time (black oil on driveway does not remove that easily) bag up oily rags & old filter...pour black oil from receptacle to empty oil can....go for more rags to mop up black oil spillage on driveway (did I already say black oil on driveway does not remove that easily?) Go indoors for a coffee...no chance....swear, no Swarfega left......get cleaned up (well, cleanish) go to local tip to dispose of old oil & bagged up contents of Tory Canyon disaster.
Well I use to do this....... but now can be done for
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 01:54 PM

Thanks for the info folks - job's a good'un

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 01:54 PM

Mike - ever thought of publishing a column in a mag or newspaper!
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 02:09 PM

But doing it yourself makes you feel more manly!

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 02:56 PM

But doing it yourself makes you feel more manly!

:D


Oh yes. I use to be one of them as well. :lol:
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 03:25 PM

[quote name='mike_ch7' post='157139' date='Nov 13 2008, 02:44 PM']
For many years I use to do all my own oil changes, as many on here will have done.
Lovely job....go get the oil & filter..then a trip to Citroen agent for sump plug washer. try to find enough rags to mop up inevitable spillages. Crawl under car with suitable receptacle for the old oil + socket set (of course first obtaining correct sump plug spanner, different from all the other sump plug spanners I have used...got quite a collection now). Drain the warm oil...swear & fish out sump plug from oil drainage receptacle...drag myself from under the car...bang head...swear, go inside for a coffee & a bit of sympathy from her indoors...got none because I put oil smears on tap, kettle, coffee jar, spoon and mug, sent outside as not allowed to sit indoors "in that state". Attempt to use chain strap on screw on filter (point of interest....at the car plant when car was on production line the first item on the line was the oil filter...all other components were built around this) Scrape knuckles in an impossibly tight space...swear. Think twice to make sure Im doing "lefty loosey...righty tighty" think again a third time as the 4@cking thing has been previously over tightened...but then a mixture of bliss and agony as it suddenly gives and I scrape my same knuckles even deeper possibly needing extensive plastic surgery. Mop up all the spillage from the residual oil still in the filter....crap I run out of rags and its dripping on the alternator and belt....run in panicking for more rags....told to "be careful what you touch" give a withering look to her indoors which she cant possibly understand the implications of. Run out mop up spillage. Open oil can to dip finger in oil to smear the filter gasket...attempt to start thread on oil filter housing with filter (about 17 times) get it started then panic that it may be cross threaded...unscrew & start again just to make sure. Unscrew oil filler cap and place on engine block. Start to pour in oil really carefully....stop to mop up spillage of new oil on engine block. $4iiiyite....the sump plug...dive under car....bang head...swear... screw on sump plug....unscew sump plug and this time use new sump plug washer...tighten sump plug...drag myself from under the car, this time being very careful not bang head...see oily handprints on black bumper that I used for purchase & support in an attempt at (careful) under car body extraction.
Fill car with oil. Swear...lost the filler cap...do an extensive search of all engine bay crevices (at a rough estimate, 239)...find filler cap lodged in an impossible position but managed to retrieve...put on oil filler cap. Check for any leaks....turn on engine check again for any leaks. All is done....almost....mop up spills I missed the fist time (black oil on driveway does not remove that easily) bag up oily rags & old filter...pour black oil from receptacle to empty oil can....go for more rags to mop up black oil spillage on driveway (did I already say black oil on driveway does not remove that easily?) Go indoors for a coffee...no chance....swear, no Swarfega left......get cleaned up (well, cleanish) go to local tip to dispose of old oil & bagged up contents of Tory Canyon disaster.
Well I use to do this....... but now can be done for
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 05:43 PM

Whats 'rally' grade oil when its at home?

I think kwik fit would do the job just fine. Why would they need to take the undertray off?
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 06:11 PM

Maybe its some supa-dupa oil for a bit of rallying between commutes and shopping trips.
Mike has decided to wash his Pentland Green sometime in 2006.
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 06:17 PM

I was wondering if it came with a free tin of mud to chuck up your car:p
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 06:45 PM

Whats 'rally' grade oil when its at home?

I think kwik fit would do the job just fine. Why would they need to take the undertray off?


You know quite well what I am talking about, "Cleaver Dick" You are quite aware that Adult Spam Beware oil from a sump is a little different from draining out from the sump plug. Cheap filters and low cost oil together with Adult Spam Beware oil out from the dip stick hole is the aftermarket way any you seem to endorse this.
This forum is to give sound engineering advice to people who have questions to ask and need advising correctly. You should know better as you seem to comment on everything and know all.
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 06:51 PM

My oil and Filter cost

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 07:14 PM

Did you not take some tablets or something?

Kwik fit stock Mobil oils in the outlets - I dont personally see what is wrong there? I also doubt that Kwik Fit and ExxonMobil would appreciate a negative slant on there trade without good reason.
Mobil 1 ESP looks a good lubricant to me. Meets API CF and SL.
As for oil filters I can only comment on my local couple of outlets but they use Mann filters (previously Fram) - which again I see no issue with.

Have you had a bad experience?

Why the hostility?
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 08:07 PM

Hey chill out guys! It wasn't as rough as this last time I was here - it's only an oil change fgs!

Anyway, it was a nice balmy Autumn day (20C) - birds singing etc. and I quite enjoyed it really.

Agree about the mucky hands though, but not so sure about feeling men - but whatever pulls your bits :blink:

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 10:08 PM

Kwik Fit,

ive had three oil changes done at Kwik Fit ,its def not done my car any harm , if i bought the oil and filter and did job my self it would cost hell of a lot more ,so next year they get to do job again

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Posted 14 November 2008 - 04:32 PM

Whats 'rally' grade oil when its at home?

I think kwik fit would do the job just fine. Why would they need to take the undertray off?


You should know this as you seem to be an expert on all matters. Never heard of Mobil Rally 1? I am surprised

Yes thats correct.

I'd put something on the floor like a rag or an old piece of carboard as it will drip.

I have a link to a method someone wrote up for a Pug 407 with the same engine (I'll link rather than cut/paste due to the photos). May help you out.

James.
407_DV6_Oil_And_OilFilter_Removal

You need to have a password to enter the 407 site, that,s not so cleaver for others to understand! We are supposed to offer easy to use advice on this forum!
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