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#1 snminc

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 12:30 PM

Greetings to all,
I've just completed my first long distance jolly to County Durham (a round trip of 370 miles) and averaged 28.8mpg which I'm quite impressed with. My 2002 2.0 HDI SX is the most stable tow car yet but I was slightly surprised at my mpg. Our caravan is an ABI Hallstar 500 with an unlaiden weight of 740Kg

Out of curiosity what's your mpg whilst towing?

Thanks for reading this far

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 04:24 PM

My first trip this season with a new new (secondhand van). 32.8Mpg going to the site 125miles away mainly motorway at 55mph Ave for whole journey there 44mph. Van weight 1126 Plus odds and sods just shy of 1220kg total.

For the whole trip 379 miles including two tow trips of 125miles Ave. MPG 39.7. I tow with a 1.6HDI 110bph.

Coming home got a bit of a scare i developed an engine fault? Got to the Motorway sevice area and swiched off the car went for a cuppa in the van and when we had finished our lunch the fault was no longer showing. Off to the dealer to find out about it this week.

I use to have a van that had a max laden weight 750 and never loaded to that weight, the new van although more heavy was not much different to tow.

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 09:08 PM

Coming home got a bit of a scare i developed an engine fault? Got to the Motorway sevice area and swiched off the car went for a cuppa in the van and when we had finished our lunch the fault was no longer showing. Off to the dealer to find out about it this week.


Poor car ... you have abused it far too long ... ditch the shed & the bucket to pee in and use B&Bs ... other road users will then love you ... :o

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 11:34 AM

Thanks for your replay Matt

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 11:17 PM

Between June 2002 and May 2004 I towed my caravan (a Swift, weighing about 1250kg fully loaded) with my previous Picasso (a 2001 2.0 HDi SX). During that time I covered 37500 miles solo at an average of 55 MPG, and 4500 miles towing at an average of 30 MPG.

I have now gone back to a Picasso, this time a 1.6 HDi 110hp. It will be interesting to see how the two compare.

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 07:24 AM

Will be very interested to see your figures for the 1.6HDI in due course.

We tow a lighter van but our figures were similar to yours when we used the 2L HDI Xsara car. The change to the 1.6HDI Pic has not produced significant savings, despite all that is claimed for the engine.

However, so much depends on driving style and road conditions and I may be using more of the additional power of the new engine than I realise. We normally pull at 90kph on French m-ways but sometimes suffer from adverse winds. Solo journeys are on roads with higher speed limits than UK but we can get more than 55mpg on our long runs from M

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 03:17 PM

Between June 2002 and May 2004 I towed my caravan (a Swift, weighing about 1250kg fully loaded) with my previous Picasso (a 2001 2.0 HDi SX). During that time I covered 37500 miles solo at an average of 55 MPG, and 4500 miles towing at an average of 30 MPG.

I have now gone back to a Picasso, this time a 1.6 HDi 110hp. It will be interesting to see how the two compare.

Hi Phil,
How do the two compare? I am thinking of swapping towcars from a 2.0HDi which is not brilliant either for towing or consumption, to a 1.6 110 Hdi. Your comments would be appreciated.
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Posted 10 August 2007 - 09:32 PM

Hi Bri,

I've not had much chance to use the caravan this year (Was that a cheer I heard from Dan :D ), however so far fuel consumption is as follows:

Solo 7407 miles at 51.72 MPG
Towing 592 miles at 29.95 MPG

Why do you say the 2.0 HDi is not brilliant for towing or consumption ?

Phil

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 11:06 AM

Got it down to 12.2mpg once but that was hoofing it in 3rd gear uphill on the M62 coming out of Brighouse with a "wee" bit more weight than it should have had behind it :blush:
Never actually checked it over any distance.

Current truck is doing 29.3mpg tugging the shed along, mainly in 6th with the cruise control enabled at the legal limit :D

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 02:54 PM

Current truck is doing 29.3mpg tugging the shed along, mainly in 6th with the cruise control enabled at the legal limit :D

Which limit? The solo limit or the towing limit :torch:

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 03:20 PM

That would be the one applicable to the current road/rig limits hofficer ;)

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Posted 17 August 2007 - 04:34 PM

Hi Bri,

I've not had much chance to use the caravan this year (Was that a cheer I heard from Dan :D ), however so far fuel consumption is as follows:

Solo 7407 miles at 51.72 MPG
Towing 592 miles at 29.95 MPG

Why do you say the 2.0 HDi is not brilliant for towing or consumption ?

Phil

Hi Phil,

After towing with the 2.0 HDi Pic on a trip down to Cornwall I was disappointed with it's towing ability and fuel consumption. I am a lifelong caravaner and have towed with quite a number of vehicles including a Citroen BX TZD 1.9 Diesel which was the best towcar I ever had which performed brilliantly and only dropped 10% in fuel consumption when towing. Since posing this question of comparability I have now towed the same caravan with the 1.6 HDi Pic, and the performance was far superior to the 2.0, both in towing ability and fuel econemy.
I can exceed 60+mpg solo and I got 35- 38mpg towing. With the 2.0 HDi i get 55-60 mpg solo depending on conditions but get as low as 22-25 mpg towing. I have always prided myself on being able to get maximum mpg from any vehicle I have owned or driven.
It's obvious to me that in the search to keep emissions down this common rail diesel technology can't give it us both ways like the old indirect injection turbo engine. To sum up, brilliant on solo but rubbish towing.
Bri

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Posted 17 August 2007 - 11:26 PM

Hi Bri,

The difference in your fuel consumption between the 2.0 & 1.6 engines is interesting.

My previous pic (2.0) gave 55/30 (solo/towing), my present pic (1.6) gives 52/30. Not much difference between them. I just put the difference between a 2.0 90hp and a 1.6 110hp down to progress with engines over a 5 year period.

Incidentally, how heavy is your outfit ?

Phil

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 06:40 PM

Hi Bri,

The difference in your fuel consumption between the 2.0 & 1.6 engines is interesting.

My previous pic (2.0) gave 55/30 (solo/towing), my present pic (1.6) gives 52/30. Not much difference between them. I just put the difference between a 2.0 90hp and a 1.6 110hp down to progress with engines over a 5 year period.

Incidentally, how heavy is your outfit ?

Phil

Hi Phil,

I'm still disappointed in the towing consumption compared with the other citroens I've owned. They call it progress. Not doing a lot for the environment is it?

My outfit is 900 kgs. Hope it helps.
Bri

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 09:36 PM

We just returned from 2 weeks camping in Devon - 2.0 Hdi, Conway trailer tent, 2 bikes, five up and a ludacous amount of kit. We used three tankfuls, and averaged 53 mpg...which I was quite pleased with as a mixture of 6o (ish) on the way down towing and miles of country lanes in first gear when we were down there.
Curiously, it still does about the same all the time!

And as an aside, doesn't the back sink down a long way when fully laden! :wacko:
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 10:50 PM

And as an aside, doesn't the back sink down a long way when fully laden! :wacko:


Try it with 30 boxes of ceramic tiles in the back :blush:

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Posted 18 September 2007 - 06:08 AM

Dan! Only 30 boxes? Try a boot full. Then you really see it sink!

NO not us. I was in a well known DIY store car park when i saw this couple load the back of the car with tiles and bags of adhisive ect they filled it up then folded one of the seats forward and cramed even more in.

Dont think they were within leagle limits.

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 04:50 PM

35 MPG for 2.0HDI over 180 miles not too bad

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 12:28 PM

34 MPG 500 mile round trip 2.0 HDI with a 1250kg caravan

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 07:54 PM

Greetings to all,
I've just completed my first long distance jolly to County Durham (a round trip of 370 miles) and averaged 28.8mpg which I'm quite impressed with. My 2002 2.0 HDI SX is the most stable tow car yet but I was slightly surprised at my mpg. Our caravan is an ABI Hallstar 500 with an unlaiden weight of 740Kg

Out of curiosity what's your mpg whilst towing?

Thanks for reading this far

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I used to get 30 mpg out of my 1.6lx towing a elldis wirlwind xl (1100 kg )